VA MS Registry Data
Rebecca Spain : Mitch, there are many interesting things we can learn about the interplay between COVID-19 and MS using registries such as how it affects people based on rural vs metropolitan living, whether people are living in single family homes or not as a proxy marker for social support, and so on.
Mitchell Wallin: We have both an MS registry to track and follow patients through our clinical network and a specific COVID-19 registry as well in VA. We have identified the MS cases infected with CoVID-19 and are putting them together.
Jodie Haselkorn: There are a number of efforts in mental health that are moving forward to examine depression and in anxiety during COVID-19. Individuals with MS have increased rates of depression and anxiety above that of the general population during usual times. The literature reports an increase in anxiety and depression in general population associated with the pandemic and veterans with MS seem to be reporting these symptoms more frequently as well. We will be able to track use the registry to assess the impacts of COVID-19 on depression and anxiety in Veterans with MS.
Providing MS Care During COVID-19
Jodie Haselkorn: The transition to telehealth in COVID-19 has been surprisingly seamless with some additional training for veterans and HCPs. I initially experienced an inefficiency in my clinic visit productivity. It took me longer to see a veteran because I wasn’t doing telehealth in our clinic with support staff and residents, my examination had to change, my documentation template needed to be restructured, and the coding was different. Sometimes I saw a veteran in clinic the and my next appointment required me to move back to my office in another building for a telehealth appointment. Teaching virtual trainees who also participated in the clinic encounters had its own challenges and rewards. My ‘motor routine’ was disrupted.
Rebecca Spain: There’s a real learning curve for telehealth in terms of how comfortable you feel with the data you get by telephone or video and how reliable that is. There are issues based on technology factors—like the patient’s bandwidth—because determining how smooth their motions are is challenging if you have a jerky, intermittent signal. I learned quickly to always do the physical examination first because I might lose video connection partway through and have to switch to a phone visit!
It’s still an open question, how much are we missing by using a video and not in-person visits. And what are the long-term health outcomes and implications of that? That is something that needs to be studied in neurology where we pride ourselves on the physical examination. When move to a virtual physical examination, is there cost? There are incredible gains using telehealth in terms of convenience and access to care, which may outweigh some of the drawbacks in particular cases.
There are also pandemic challenge in terms of clinic workflow. At VA Portland Health Care System in Oregon, I have 3 clinics for Friday morning: telephone, virtual, and face-to-face clinics. It’s a real struggle for the schedulers. And because of that transition to new system workflows to accommodate this, some patient visits have been dropped, lost, or scheduled incorrectly.